Thursday, April 12, 2012

Sorc questions

[:1]If i have full tal rasha set, i still need to look for something better? or is the set enough? (since i'm not rich at all, got like 4 ists runes, i cannot afford high runewords)

My sorc is lvl 84, frozen orb lightning/chain lightning build, and i can solo most of Hell's places, even tough i die in rooms with many ranged attackers >_<

I use a spirit shield into a Monarch, is this good enough? Should i change it?

Atm i'm using Silkweave boots, but i'm looking for War Traveler for MFing.

And last, i got like 4-5 Larzuk's quests still to complete...what and with what gem should i socket my items? (armor has already perf top)

Last, i need to cahnge my rings for some better uniques/rare, since atm i'm using a 10%fcr+60mana, and a rare ring with some nice res on it|||Well, the trouble with upgrading gear from full Tal's is that the next step up requires several high runes. I'd stick with Tal's for a while. If anything, work towards getting a merc infinity or a call to arms if you don't have one yet.

35 fcr spirit monarch is good, you need it for 105/117 fcr with Tal's set.

Larzuk quests, I'd probably socket ptopaz into the helm, armor's already good. Maybe put a low facet into the orb if you have a light or cold facet.

Assuming you wear magefist, you want both rings to be FCR rings to hit 117% to speed up your lightning side. If your primary attack is orb, I wouldn't worry about it. Instead try to get either SoJs or rings with defensive stats. Hp, +str, mana, res, maek, etc.|||Quote:








Well, the trouble with upgrading gear from full Tal's is that the next step up requires several high runes. I'd stick with Tal's for a while. If anything, work towards getting a merc infinity or a call to arms if you don't have one yet.

35 fcr spirit monarch is good, you need it for 105/117 fcr with Tal's set.

Larzuk quests, I'd probably socket ptopaz into the helm, armor's already good. Maybe put a low facet into the orb if you have a light or cold facet.

Assuming you wear magefist, you want both rings to be FCR rings to hit 117% to speed up your lightning side. If your primary attack is orb, I wouldn't worry about it. Instead try to get either SoJs or rings with defensive stats. Hp, +str, mana, res, maek, etc.




thnx for advice!|||If you feel like gambling, you can of course do that (what else to spend all that gold on from selling crap?) plus try out some crafting. You can make some decent fcr rings from that and they are basically free (kinda, pames can be a pain the arse).

And what Karth said. Also, Anni + Torch. You should be able to afford a low torch or an anni with your ists. After that, finding (or buying) a good base for Infy, numero uno seeing your secondary attack is lightning.|||i wouldnt go with a cold sorc... light sorc would be best and try to get a low infinity for the immunes|||Quote:








i wouldnt go with a cold sorc... light sorc would be best and try to get a low infinity for the immunes




In all honesty... did you read the OP? 4 ists are not even close to afford even a crap Infy in a crap base (that are non-existent). Also, without good gear, a lit sorc will still have immense problems dealing damage to lit immunes. It's not worth it. A budget sorc should always go dual tree unless you specialize into something very specific (e.g. doing Ancient Tunnels or hell Mephisto).

Anyway, for someone on a budget, Tal's is a fantastic set to get.|||Quote:








Also, without good gear, a lit sorc will still have immense problems dealing damage to lit immunes.




Tal's set gives the same -elr as a low griff. Infinity merc is a good next step from there. Sure, it takes a lot of work, but building wealth isn't that hard once you've got a decent start.|||Quote:








If i have full tal rasha set, i still need to look for something better? or is the set enough? (since i'm not rich at all, got like 4 ists runes, i cannot afford high runewords) My sorc is lvl 84, frozen orb lightning/chain lightning build, and i can solo most of Hell's places, even tough i die in rooms with many ranged attackers >_<

I use a spirit shield into a Monarch, is this good enough? Should i change it?

Atm i'm using Silkweave boots, but i'm looking for War Traveler for MFing.




I had a cold/lite sorc using full tal set named "TalPasha" myself, having leveled him to 92 purely through MFing. I will say that unless you are planning on changing your build to a single tree, the full tal set is sufficient for most of your gameplay needs.

The available gear slots outside of full tal set are; glove, boots, shield, and 2 rings. And if this character is your primary MFer, the following is what I would advise for gear upgrade.

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Gloves

1st choice: Chanceguards (there truly is no better glove for MFing)

2nd choice: Trang Oul set glove (for 20fcr & some resist)

3rd choice: Magefist (for 20fcr, mana regen, and a somewhat additional passive +fire skill to booster warmth)

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Boots

1st choice: Wartravellers (30-50% MF, 10str bonus to save you some points for meeting spirit monarch's 156str req, 10vita for some extra life )

2nd choice: CowKing set boots (25% MF, 20dex for adding some % to your block with spirit monarch - meh)

3rd choice: Rare boots with dual/tri resist mods & some MF (best ones comes with frw and/or fhr)

For the 3rd choice, magical boots purchasable from NPCs can spawn up to 35% MF if you're desperate for some additional MF. Rare boots can spawn with MF too, and usually comes with additional mods.

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Shields

1st choice: Spirit Monarch (+2skills, 55fhr, resist, life/mana, etc)

2nd choice: Splendor Grim/Troll Nest (20% MF, +1skill, 10fcr, etc)

3rd choice: Rhyme Grim (25% MF, 25 resist, good block mods, CBF mod)

Spirit Monarch (if available) is simply has too attractive mods to passup for the 2nd & 3rd choice.

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Rings

1st choice: SoJs (+1skill. 25% more mana) - two of these will give you 2skills and give a 50% enhancement to your mana capacity; good for ES users with Insight Act 2 Merc.

2nd choice: Nagelrings (15-30%MF)

3rd choice: 10fcr rings with nice mods (the preferred ones are life, mana, resists, MF, etc)

4th choice: Dwarfstars (100%goldfind, 15% fire absorb, 12-15MDR)

5th choice: Ravenfrost (15-20dex, 20%cold absorb, CBF mod)

Having played a cold/lite sorc, I can tell you having +skill is more effective than having additional MF for ring slots. But should SoJs be unavailable to you, consider dwarfstars for the extra gold drops to aid in gambling for rare ring/boots replacements.

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And last, i got like 4-5 Larzuk's quests still to complete...what and with what gem should i socket my items? (armor has already perf top)




I think it's safe to go with Ptopaz for your Tal Mask & Armor slots. As for your orb, if it's a perfect 2/2/2 tal orb go with Ist rune for maximized MF if you are not planning on changing your gear anytime soon. For non-perfect tal orbs, you can consider going with Fal rune if you wanna save on some stat points for equipping Spirit Monarch, Ko rune if you are planning on a max block approach with a higher block shield (rhyme), or any magical/rare jewel with MF and some useful mods.|||Quote:




Tal's set gives the same -elr as a low griff. Infinity merc is a good next step from there. Sure, it takes a lot of work, but building wealth isn't that hard once you've got a decent start.




I never said Infinity is an option later. Of course it is. However, telling someone who is on a budget to go lit and Infy without the gear to actually make it worth is just stupid.

Also, my point about getting anni + torch still stand for those ists. You'll get the most of them at this point in the game because they increase your killspeed with +skills and help you survive with the additional stats and mods. An Insight merc will work just fine, although after trying out the infinitecast teleport build, I have to say I like it much more over Insight, at least if you mostly run act bosses. Currently I am using a Reaper's Toll with Blackhorn's Face and a Duress in an eth ed wire fleece on my merc and he survives just fine as well as dealing decent damage. Would I more specifically focus on Baal I would give him a Kelpie Snare, so Baal can't do his annoying teleporting.|||Quote:








I never said Infinity is an option later. Of course it is. However, telling someone who is on a budget to go lit and Infy without the gear to actually make it worth is just stupid.




Tal rasha's set, decent fcr, decent mana, and infinity is all a full light build requires to be worth it in my opinion.

Calling my end of things stupid doesn't make your argument better; it just makes it appear as if your side of the debate doesn't have legs to stand on. If you want to continue this tactic, I'm willing to skip the effort of further debate and go straight to insulting your genetics, parentage, mental attributes, etc. If not, come up with something better to say.

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